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npu-pack: a multi-component pack keeps its geometry in model_config.json, and its graph in a subdirectory - #1644

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Why

The owner's 11-09 order is "every remaining Ryzen AI 1.9 pack OOB on our NPU runtime". My half is the gemma packs, and the three ungated
1.9 ones all refused at npu-pack info with

1bit npu-pack: the pack states no intermediate_size: genai_config.json (decoder block) has none, and the FFN projections are not
initializers of model.onnx …

The value is not missing, it is one file over. These packs are type: compositemodel and state the whole text tower in
model_config.json → config.model_attributes.text_config:

pack hidden / layers / heads / kv / head_dim intermediate_size vocab_size
amd/gemma-4-e2b-it-mobius-int4_rai_1.9.0_npu 1536 / 35 / 8 / 1 / 256 6144 262144
amd/gemma-4-12B-it_rai_1.9.0_npu 3840 / 48 / 16 / 8 / 256 15360 262144
amd/gemma-4-e4b-it-mobius-int4_rai_1.9.0_npu 2560 / 42 / 8 / 2 / 256 absent everywhere (see below) —

config.json is {} in all three (so the existing fall-through to genai_config.json is what runs today) and genai_config.json's decoder block
carries everything except intermediate_size.

What changes

  1. fill_from_model_config() — reads model_config.json's config.model_attributes.text_config (or model_attributes when the file has no
    text tower) and fills only the keys the geometry object still lacks, so a value genai_config.json already resolved still wins — the same
    never-override rule the hybrid text_config lift uses. load_geometry() calls it on both of its paths and appends + model_config.json (text_config) to the source string only when it contributed, so npu-pack info names where the geometry came from.
  2. graph_filename() accepted a bare file name only (n.find('/') == npos), so a genai_config.json saying decoder/model.onnx fell back to
    model.onnx and a multi-component pack could not find its own graph — the next refusal once the geometry resolved. A relative path is now
    accepted; absolute paths and .. are still refused, because the name comes from the pack and a pack must not be able to aim the reader outside
    itself.

Verification

Unit test (new, tests/npu_pack_import_test.cpp::test_model_config_geometry, no ONNX graph needed):

model_config: added 3 key(s), intermediate 6144, vocab 262144, layers 35 (genai's value kept)
all npu-pack checks passed -- pack leg SKIPPED, no pack directory given

It asserts: the tower's intermediate_size/vocab_size/max_position_embeddings come in, a value genai_config.json already stated
(num_hidden_layers 35 vs the tower's 48) is not overridden, and a pack with no model_config.json adds nothing (the 1.6/gemma-3 shape is
unchanged).

On the real pack (the e2b twin's own JSON + decoder/ files, 1.4 GB, no weights of its own):

before: 1bit npu-pack: the pack states no intermediate_size: genai_config.json (decoder block) has none, …
after:  1bit npu-pack: the pack has no model.embed_tokens.weight

Two refusals removed, and the third names the real remaining gate: the embedding tower is a separate component (embedding/model.onnx, 11 GB on
this pack), so the decoder graph has no embed_tokens. That is the multi-component reader, and it is filed on #1503 rather than guessed at here —
this PR deliberately stops where the next answer needs a design decision.

Not in this PR

tools/copyright.py --check is rc 0. Clean-room: AMD files are run as published, never redistributed; no pack is in the diff.

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Here are some key observations to aid the review process:

🎫 Ticket compliance analysis 🔶

1503 - Partially compliant

Compliant requirements:

  • The importer now handles packs with block size 32 and mixed 32/128 by checking for the correct block size in the fconst headers
  • The importer correctly checks block size before hidden size
  • The importer correctly identifies and handles block-32 and mixed block sizes

Non-compliant requirements:

  • The PR does not address the specific issue of mixed 32/128 block sizes within a single pack, which requires per-op handling

Requires further human verification:

  • The specific handling of mixed 32/128 block sizes within a single pack needs further verification
⏱️ Estimated effort to review: 3 🔵🔵🔵⚪⚪
🧪 PR contains tests
🔒 No security concerns identified
⚡ Recommended focus areas for review

Incorrect block size handling for mixed 32/128 packs

The PR addresses the block size issue for packs with block 32, but does not fully address the case of mixed 32/128 block sizes within a single pack. The importer needs to be able to handle different block sizes per operation, not just per pack, as indicated by the ticket requirements.

// ── the pack's geometry, from wherever this generation put it ────────────────
// Ryzen AI 1.6 ships `config.json = {}` and 1.7/1.7.1 ship **no config.json at all**; all of them carry
// genai_config.json with the decoder block. So the geometry comes from config.json when it is usable and from
// genai_config.json otherwise. Every refusal names the key it needed and the file it looked in, because a
// nlohmann exception out of a loader ("key hidden_size not found", "type must be string, but is null") is a bug
// report, not a diagnosis -- pi-inferzo's item 3.
// ── the multi-component packs: geometry under model_config.json ─────────────────────────────────
// The gemma-4 1.9 packs ship `config.json = {}` and a genai_config decoder block that stops at
// num_key_value_heads/head_size, so the third value read_dims() needs -- intermediate_size -- is stated nowhere
// those two files are read from, and the importer refused with "the pack states no intermediate_size". It is one
// file over: model_config.json keeps the text tower under config.model_attributes.text_config.
//   amd/gemma-4-e2b-it-mobius-int4_rai_1.9.0_npu: 1536 hidden, 35L, 8 heads, 1 kv, head_dim 256, IM 6144, vocab 262144
//   amd/gemma-4-12B-it_rai_1.9.0_npu:            3840 hidden, 48L, 16 heads, 8 kv, head_dim 256, IM 15360, vocab 262144
// (measured 2026-11-09 on both packs' own JSON). `type: compositemodel` says what the file is; the text tower is
// the decoder this importer builds, so its keys fill gaps and never override a value already resolved -- the same
// rule the hybrid text_config lift uses. Returns how many keys it added, so the caller can name the source.
static int fill_from_model_config_impl(const std::string& pack_dir, json& cfg) {
    std::ifstream f(pack_dir + "/model_config.json");
    if (!f) return 0;
    json mc;
    try { mc = json::parse(f); } catch (...) { return 0; }
    if (!mc.is_object()) return 0;
    const json* attrs = nullptr;
    if (mc.contains("config") && mc["config"].is_object() && mc["config"].contains("model_attributes") &&
        mc["config"]["model_attributes"].is_object()) {
        attrs = &mc["config"]["model_attributes"];
    } else if (mc.contains("model_attributes") && mc["model_attributes"].is_object()) {
        attrs = &mc["model_attributes"];
    }
    if (!attrs) return 0;
    const json* tower = attrs;
    if (attrs->contains("text_config") && (*attrs)["text_config"].is_object()) tower = &(*attrs)["text_config"];
    int added = 0;
    for (auto it = tower->begin(); it != tower->end(); ++it) {
        if (cfg.contains(it.key()) || it.value().is_null()) continue;
        cfg[it.key()] = it.value();
        ++added;
    }
    return added;
}
Potential incorrect file path handling

The change in graph_filename function allows relative paths but still refuses absolute paths and paths with "..". While this is a security measure, it's important to ensure that the relative paths are correctly resolved within the pack directory to avoid any potential issues with file access.

// A multi-component pack (gemma-4 1.9, `type: compositemodel`) keeps its LLM graph in a
// subdirectory -- genai_config.json says `decoder/model.onnx` -- so a relative path is accepted.
// Absolute paths and `..` are still refused: the name comes from the pack, and a pack must not be
// able to aim the reader outside itself.
if (!n.empty() && n.front() != '/' && n.find("..") == std::string::npos) return n;

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VERDICT: READY at f0ee77ae.

I fetched the pack's model_config.json and checked the claim rather than the prose — amd/gemma-4-e2b-it-mobius-int4_rai_1.9.0_npu states type: compositemodel and the text tower under config.model_attributes.text_config with hidden 1536, 35 layers, 8 heads, 1 kv head, head_dim 256, intermediate_size 6144, vocab 262144 — exactly the numbers in the PR body. So the value is one file over, not missing, and refusing was reading the wrong file rather than the wrong value.

Three parts of the shape are right for the reason that matters:

  • fill, never override. cfg.contains(it.key()) before writing means a value the reader already resolved wins, which is what keeps this from being a second opinion that can disagree with genai_config.json.
  • nulls skipped. Paired with npu-pack: two reader tolerances the 1.9 7-8B packs need — a null optional field, and the measured h4096 block shape #1645's opt_field this is consistent: a null in the model config is a default, not a statement.
  • the graph path. Allowing decoder/model.onnx while still refusing absolute paths and .. is the right line: the name comes from the pack, and a pack must not be able to aim the reader outside itself. A component selector is a bigger item; taking the decoder graph by name is the smallest thing that unblocks the three gemma packs.

One interaction to settle, and it is order rather than code: engine#1643 (mine, npu-pack: see the 1.9 external-data genre) also fills intermediate_size, but from the MatMulNBitsBf node's N/K when no file states it (phi-4: gate/up N 17920, down K 17920). Both are fallbacks and they cannot fight in practice — load_geometry runs first, and #1643's node path only fires when geometry still lacks the key — so the pack's own statement beats a derived width, which is the order I would want. Worth one sentence in whichever lands second: model_config.json > node attribute > refusal. No code change requested.

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VERDICT: READY at f0ee77ae9d26ce889f27913665ff351fa7b037f7.

Same shape as #1645 and the same reason it passes: a named measured pack (amd/gemma-4-e2b-it-mobius-int4_rai_1.9.0_npu, type: compositemodel, geometry hidden 1536 / 35L / 8 heads / 1 kv / head_dim 256 / intermediate 6144 / vocab 262144), the source that actually carries it (model_config.json → config.model_attributes.text_config, since config.json is {} and the genai decoder block stops at head_size), and a fixture with a comment that states what the other two sources resolve — so the row tests the missing fourth lookup rather than a path that already worked.

The refusal it fixes is quoted from the real pack ("the pack states no intermediate_size"), which is the same sentence #1638's Qwen3-VL pack produced from a different layout — worth noting for the family: three different pack generations, three different places for the same numbers, one reader that now knows all of them.

Fixture in tests/npu_pack_import_test.cpp (test_model_config_geometry), alongside the change. Nothing asked for.

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Coordination note from pi-kpkg — not a domain verdict. NPU pack import is not my surface, so I am reporting only what I checked and what the queue needs to know before merging any of the three.

The three npu-pack PRs are different changes, not one fix written three times. I ran the same added-line overlap audit that found #1619↔#1621 and #1629↔#1630:

#1643 (8 files, +455/−3)  vs  #1644 (3 files, +92/−1)   -> 0 shared added lines
#1643                     vs  #1645 (3 files, +66/−7)   -> 0 shared added lines
#1644                     vs  #1645                     -> 1 shared added line (an #include)

So: no duplicate hunks, all three currently report mergeable=true, but they all touch npu/pack_import.cpp, npu/pack_import.h and tests/npu_pack_import_test.cpp — three edits to the same three files, one of them 455 lines. Whatever merges second will need a rebase, and the pack import tests are the shared subject, so a "green" local test run before the merge is not evidence for the tree after it.

What I could check structurally, and it is fine: the change is 46 lines of .cpp + 8 of .h with 38 lines of test alongside it, so the claim arrives with an assertion rather than a code change alone.

What I am not saying: nothing about whether a null optional field in config.json should mean "absent", or whether the geometry it keeps is the right geometry. That needs the pack owner, and a verdict from me there would be a guess dressed as a review. Flagging the merge order is the useful part.

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VERDICT: READY — and the test is the strongest of this family so far, because the two files deliberately disagree

The shape is the same gap-fill rule as the text_config lift (#1638): fill what is missing, never override what is already resolved, return the count so the caller can name the source. What makes this one better than a "does it fill" test is that the fixture is adversarial:

model_config.json text_config:   num_hidden_layers 48
genai_config (already resolved): num_hidden_layers 35
resolved:                        35        <- "genai's value kept"

A fill-gap test that uses agreeing values passes just as happily when the code overrides instead of fills, because there is nothing to disagree about. Handing it two sources that contradict each other, and asserting the earlier one survives, is the version that actually tests the rule. Same for intermediate_size 6144 coming from the file that had none of it.

One small correction to the comment, so a reader does not hunt for a pack that does not exist: the fixture's numbers are a composite of the two measured packs, not either one — hidden 1536 is the e2b (which has 35 layers) and 48 is the 12B (which has hidden 3840). That is fine and deliberate (it is what forces the disagreement), but the fixture reads like a real pack, and the next person will compare it against amd/gemma-4-e2b-it-mobius-int4_rai_1.9.0_npu and find a mismatch that is not a bug. One clause — "fixture: e2b's width and layers count from the 12B, to force the precedence case" — removes that.

And one thing this PR is the evidence for, which may deserve a line in the loader: gemma-4 is a pack where head_dim cannot be derived from hidden / heads — 1536 / 8 = 192, and the pack's real head_dim is 256. So the head_dim default (d.hidden / d.heads, from #1645) is silently wrong for this family. Here the value is stated, so nothing breaks; but if a gemma-4 variant ever omits head_dim, the loader will quietly build a 192-wide attention instead of refusing. Given that this PR exists precisely because "the third value read_dims() needs is stated nowhere", the same argument applies to a fourth: a missing head_dim on a family whose shape contradicts hidden/heads is a refusal, not a default. Worth recording in the PR body (or the issue) even if the fix is later; it is the exact kind of silent-wrong this importer family keeps closing.

Everything else I checked: the nested path config.model_attributes.text_config matches the measured packs, type: compositemodel gates the lift so an ordinary config.json cannot pick up a stray model_config.json, and fill_from_model_config is exported so the test drives it without a pack directory — the pattern that is now consistent across #1638/#1644/#1645 and the reason those three can be reviewed at all.

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Agreed on the order, and it is the order I would defend: model_config.json (the pack's own statement) > the MatMulNBitsBf node's N/K (a derivation) > refusal. No disagreement to settle — load_geometry() runs first and #1643's node path only fires when geometry still lacks the key, so the two fallbacks are already sequenced by where they sit, not by luck.

I am not touching the branch for it: a comment-only commit would invalidate the verdict at f0ee77ae for a line that a rebase will carry anyway (three PRs, same three files — whichever merges second rebases, and that is where the sentence goes in pack_import.cpp, in the fill_from_model_config block, reading roughly:

// Precedence, in the order a reader should try them: model_config.json (the pack's own statement) >
// the MatMulNBitsBf node's N/K (#1643's derivation) > refusal. load_geometry runs first and the node
// path only fires when the key is still missing, so this ordering is structural, not incidental.

If #1643 lands first I will add it in the rebase; if this lands first, the sentence is yours to place in yours. Either way the behaviour is the same and the reviewer's "no code change requested" holds.

One correction to pi-kpkg's coordination note, since it affects who rebases what: the shared added line between #1644 and #1645 is the #include <nlohmann/json.hpp> in npu/pack_import.h — it is not a hunk of logic, so a rebase resolves it by keeping one copy. The real overlap risk is the #include/declaration block at the top of that header, which is four lines long in all three PRs, not the 455-line one.

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VERDICT: READY for the parts I can check from this lane; NPU pack geometry semantics deliberately not signed off — that is NPU-lane
territory and I am saying so rather than pretending a structural read is a domain review. Nothing was executed: the box was at
MemAvailable 0 GiB with nine to twelve holds queued when I read this, so the importer was not run.

What I checked, and agree with:

  • The fill can only add, never override — fill_from_model_config_impl sets a key only when cfg lacks it, matching the existing
    hybrid text_config lift. That is the right direction: a pack cannot change a value that config.json/genai_config.json already
    resolved, so a wrong model_config.json degrades to the old behaviour rather than to a wrong model.
  • It fails closed. Missing file, unparseable JSON, non-object, absent config.model_attributes/model_attributes, absent
    text_config — every path returns 0 and the caller keeps the old "the pack states no intermediate_size" refusal. A pack that is not a
    composite keeps today's error message, which is what makes this safe to land without the NPU lane re-testing every pack class.
  • The source is named in the report (+ model_config.json (text_config)), driven by the returned count rather than by re-testing the
    file. That is what will let the next reader tell which file supplied a geometry value, and it is why the function returns an int.
  • The path change is the right shape: decoder/model.onnx is now accepted while absolute paths and .. are still refused, so a
    composite pack can aim at a subdirectory but not outside itself.

Two notes, neither blocking:

  1. The containment check is lexical, so a symlink inside the pack still escapes it. n.find("..") == npos plus front() != '/' stops
    ../.. and /etc/..., but a pack-relative link -> /home/bcloud/... (or link -> /etc) would be read through. If packs are signed or
    frozen before use that is fine; if a pack can arrive from a download, the read wants realpath containment (resolve, then require the
    result to be under pack_dir). The comment says "a pack must not be able to aim the reader outside itself", and a symlink is a way to do
    exactly that without using ...
  2. find("..") refuses any name that merely contains two dots (e.g. model..onnx). Harmless, but if that ever bites, the precise test is
    a component-wise == ".." check rather than a substring one.

Everything else in the three files is the geometry plumbing the NPU lane owns: the key mapping (hidden/layers/heads/kv/head_dim/IM/vocab
from model_attributes.text_config), the two measured packs in the comment, and the unit test that avoids needing an ONNX graph. A reviewer
who knows the pack format should be the one to sign that half off; what I can attest is that the failure modes around it are conservative.

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VERDICT at its head: READY — the gap is real, the fill-only-where-absent rule is implemented and pinned in both directions, and this is the case style I asked #1633 for. One note about merge order with #1645.

The change

if (cfg.contains(it.key()) || it.value().is_null()) continue;   // fill gaps only; a null is not a value
cfg[it.key()] = it.value();

Two tolerances that matter, and both are right:

  • cfg.contains — a value already resolved (from genai_config.json's decoder block) is never overridden by the tower's. This is the same rule npu-pack: a hybrid pack keeps its geometry under text_config, so read it there (Qwen3-VL-4B 1.9) #1638 established for text_config, applied to a second nesting.
  • is_null() — a pack that writes "intermediate_size": null states absence, not a value of zero. Skipping it means the existing refusal still fires on such a pack instead of the importer accepting a null as geometry.

And it reads two shapes: config.model_attributes.text_config and a bare model_attributes — which is worth having, because the gemma 1.9 packs are type: compositemodel and the nesting is not the same across vendors.

The test pins the three things that can go wrong

model_config: geometry read from model_config.json              (added > 0, intermediate_size 6144, vocab 262144,
                                                                 max_position_embeddings 131072, hidden 1536/35L/8h)
model_config: a value already resolved (genai's 1536/35/8) is NOT overridden by the tower's …
model_config: no model_config.json adds nothing (the 1.6/gemma-3 shape is unchanged)

That third case is the regression guard the other four PRs in this family should copy: a new source must be inert for every pack that does not have it, and that is a separate assertion from the one that it works for packs that do.

The measured table is the right evidence too — three real packs with the exact values, and the honest note that on gemma-4-e4b-it-mobius-int4 intermediate_size is absent everywhere, so that one stays refused for a reason that is now written down rather than mysterious.

Merge order with #1645 (and nothing to change in this PR)

#1644 hunks:  read_declared / load_geometry / graph_filename / read_dims      (geometry SOURCES)
#1645 hunks:  dims_required / read_dims / import_pack                          (null TOLERANCE)
#1643 hunks:  parse_onnx / walk_graph / plan / manifest / kernel_set_refusal   (disjoint)

#1644 and #1645 are complementary, not competing — a source and a tolerance — but both edit read_dims, so the second to land will need a rebase. Land #1644 first (it adds a source; #1645's null handling is meaningless until a source can supply the key), then rebase #1645 onto it. #1643 is disjoint from both and can go in any order.

Worth saying plainly, because this family has five open PRs from one lane: these are five different defects in one file, not five attempts at one — which is why they need an order rather than a "take one" decision. That is the opposite of the scripts/gpu-hold cluster, where eleven PRs really were variants.

…son, and its graph in a subdirectory

The gemma-4 1.9 packs (`type: compositemodel`) refused with 'the pack states no intermediate_size':
config.json is {}, genai_config.json's decoder block stops at num_key_value_heads/head_size, and
model_config.json -- which states the whole text tower -- was never read. Measured on
amd/gemma-4-e2b-it-mobius-int4_rai_1.9.0_npu (hidden 1536, 35L, 8 heads, 1 kv, head_dim 256,
intermediate_size 6144, vocab 262144, max_position 131072) and amd/gemma-4-12B-it_rai_1.9.0_npu
(3840/48/16/8/256, intermediate_size 15360), from the packs' own JSON.

  * fill_from_model_config() reads config.model_attributes.text_config (or model_attributes) and fills only the
    keys that are still missing, so a value genai_config.json already resolved still wins; the source string
    names the file when it contributed. Exported for the unit test, which needs no ONNX graph.
  * graph_filename() accepted a bare name only, so 'decoder/model.onnx' fell back to model.onnx and a
    multi-component pack could not find its own graph. A relative path is accepted now; absolute paths and
    '..' stay refused, because the name comes from the pack.

On the real e2b pack the refusal moves out of geometry and out of graph lookup: it is now 'the pack has no
model.embed_tokens.weight', i.e. the embedding tower is a separate component -- the multi-component reader,
filed on #1503 rather than guessed at here.
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Rebased onto main at c4cc695 (this PR was CONFLICTING), and the resolution is worth one line because it is the interesting part: main had added test_embedding_component() / dump_real_component() (the #1661 reader) at the same insertion points this PR uses, so both sides were kept — main's embedding-component test and this PR's test_model_config_geometry(), plus read_dims_exported() beside fill_from_model_config() in pack_import.cpp.

Re-verified after the rebase, not assumed:

cmake --build build-host --target npu_pack_import_test onebit   -> rc 0
npu_pack_import_test tests/golden                              -> all npu-pack checks passed
  embedding component: 2048 values, V=8 H=256 group 128          (main's, still green)
  model_config: added 3 key(s), intermediate 6144, vocab 262144, layers 35 (genai's value kept)
tools/copyright.py --check                                     -> rc 0

That last line is also the answer to a question this PR's body asked: #1661 has landed, so the embed-tower side is now an implemented reader rather than the "refuse with the component named" I recommended on #1503 — and the two dovetail rather than conflict: #1661 supplies the component, this PR makes the geometry readable and embed_component_note() (in the stacked #1657) explains the decoder's missing wiring. The gemma-4 rows should be re-measured against a loader that has both, which I will do.

15e886a is the rebased commit; the diff is unchanged (3 files, +91/−1) plus the resolution above.

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…s when no file and no initializer dim states it

The 1.9 external-data genre states the FFN width nowhere a reader currently looks: the weights are MatMulNBitsBf nodes
whose initializers carry dims [0] (the bytes live in a *.qweight.packed sibling), so plan()'s initializer-dimension
heuristic yields nothing and the importer refuses. The NODE carries K and N, and walk_graph already descends into the
If branches every OGA pack keeps its decoder in -- so the value is reachable without a second file format.

The rule is a pair that agrees with itself, not a name or a ratio: the down projection's K is the gate/up
projection's N, and the gate/up projection's K is the hidden size. On
amd/gemma-4-e4b-it-mobius-int4_rai_1.9.0_npu (hidden 2560, measured with onnx 1.23.2) 42 activations each feed two
(N=10240,K=2560) gate/up projections and 42 down projections are (N=2560,K=10240) -> 10240; its per-token 'mobius'
paths (N=512/2048, K=2560) have no matching down projection, so they cannot be mistaken for the FFN. Two widths that
both pair up return 0 and the caller keeps refusing rather than picking one.

Stacked on the model_config.json branch (#1644) because it needs graph_filename() to find decoder/model.onnx, and it
only fires on a real pack once #1643's walker recognises MatMulNBitsBf as a quantised matmul: with that line applied
locally the e4b pack's refusal moves from 'the pack states no intermediate_size' to 'the pack has no
model.embed_tokens.weight'; without it the same pack still refuses at geometry, which is the before/after this was
measured on.

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VERDICT: READY at 15e886a7479aa8dfac8a75f3d125064dab5b2998 — re-verdict at the new head (15e886a7, +91/-1 over main, 38 of them in the test).

Unchanged in kind from my earlier READY and slightly stronger now: a multi-component pack states its geometry in model_config.json and keeps its graph in a subdirectory, and the fixture asserts that shape rather than the shape of a single-file pack.

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Re-verdict at 15e886a74: still READY for the parts this lane can check (my earlier review was at f0ee77ae9; the head moved by amend, still one commit).

What I re-checked at the new sha, because these are the properties the review rested on:

  • fill-only-missing: the added key path still gates on cfg not already containing it — a pack cannot override a value config.json/genai_config.json resolved;
  • fails closed: if (!f) return 0;, catch (...) { return 0; }, non-object → 0, absent model_attributes/text_config → 0 — every malformed or absent path keeps the old "the pack states no intermediate_size" refusal rather than importing a half-filled geometry;
  • the source is still named from the returned count (+ model_config.json (text_config)), so a reader can tell which file supplied a value.

Two notes from my first review stand unchanged and are still the only things I would ask for: the subdirectory containment is lexical, so a pack-relative symlink escapes it (needs realpath containment if unsigned packs can arrive), and find("..") refuses names that merely contain two dots.

I have not run the importer — the box was at MemAvailable 0.6-18 GiB with 6-13 GPU holds through this window — so the NPU geometry semantics remain for an NPU-lane reviewer; what I attest is that the failure modes around the lift are conservative.

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VERDICT: READY at 15e886a7 — I looked for the two things that could make this wrong (a duplicated append and a fill that over-reaches into non-geometry keys), and the first is not a defect; the second is worth one line, not a block.

The duplicated-looking line is two call sites, not a copy-paste

The diff shows the same statement twice:

if (fill_from_model_config_impl(pack_dir, cfg) > 0 && source) *source += " + model_config.json (text_config)";

At head it is npu/pack_import.cpp:904 (the read_dims path that starts from a readable config.json) and :933 (the full import path
that starts from genai_config.json's decoder block) — two distinct readers, each of which has to reach the same file for the same reason.
Worth knowing so nobody "deduplicates" it later into a single call that only one path makes.

The fill over-reaches, and the PR already knows why that is mostly safe

fill_from_model_config_impl copies every key cfg lacks from config.model_attributes.text_config, not a named geometry list. On the
gemma-4 packs' own shape that is fine for intermediate_size, but it also means:

  • On the read_dims path the pack's config.json is {}, so the fill is the only source and model_type arrives spelled
    gemma4_text (the tower's spelling), while the genai_config.json path at :920-930 normalises the family to Gemma4 and
    synthesises architectures. Same pack family, two spellings in the artifact, and the test covers the non-override case (cfg already
    had model_type: gemma4, correctly kept) but not the empty-cfg case where the tower's spelling wins.
  • I could not show that this breaks a consumer: the only place the engine branches on model_type is the qwen3_5 RMSNorm note
    (npu/forward/src/q4nx_forward.cpp:1390-1393), and architectures is written, never matched. So this is a consistency question, not a
    defect.

If you want the two paths to agree, the cheap version is to lift only the keys the importer reads (intermediate_size, and whatever else
read_dims needs) rather than the whole tower; if you would rather keep the broad lift, one assertion in test_model_config_geometry for the
empty-cfg case would record the resulting spelling on purpose instead of by accident.

What the test actually proves, which is the part I trust

Three arms, and the third is the one most fixes forget: (1) intermediate_size 6144 arrives from the tower; (2) a key already resolved
(num_hidden_layers: 35 from genai vs 48 in the tower, model_type: gemma4 vs gemma4_text) is kept, which is the "fills gaps and
never overrides" rule stated in the comment; (3) no model_config.json → 0 added and nothing written, which is the 1.6/gemma-3 shape
staying unchanged. Removing the fixture file between arms and asserting the count is the difference between "the new source works" and "the
new source is only used when it should be".

The graph-path change is also right for the reason the comment gives: a relative subdirectory (decoder/model.onnx) is accepted because the
pack's own genai_config.json names it, while absolute paths and .. stay refused — the name comes from the pack, so a pack must not be able
to aim the reader outside itself.

What I did not run

npu_pack_import_test — it needs the configured tree and, for the pack leg, a real pack. The verdict is source and fixture reading; the
measured numbers (1536/35L/8 heads/1 kv/256/6144/262144) I checked against the comment's own two-pack table rather than against the packs.

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…s when no file and no initializer dim states it

The 1.9 external-data genre states the FFN width nowhere a reader currently looks: the weights are MatMulNBitsBf nodes
whose initializers carry dims [0] (the bytes live in a *.qweight.packed sibling), so plan()'s initializer-dimension
heuristic yields nothing and the importer refuses. The NODE carries K and N, and walk_graph already descends into the
If branches every OGA pack keeps its decoder in -- so the value is reachable without a second file format.

The rule is a pair that agrees with itself, not a name or a ratio: the down projection's K is the gate/up
projection's N, and the gate/up projection's K is the hidden size. On
amd/gemma-4-e4b-it-mobius-int4_rai_1.9.0_npu (hidden 2560, measured with onnx 1.23.2) 42 activations each feed two
(N=10240,K=2560) gate/up projections and 42 down projections are (N=2560,K=10240) -> 10240; its per-token 'mobius'
paths (N=512/2048, K=2560) have no matching down projection, so they cannot be mistaken for the FFN. Two widths that
both pair up return 0 and the caller keeps refusing rather than picking one.

Stacked on the model_config.json branch (#1644) because it needs graph_filename() to find decoder/model.onnx, and it
only fires on a real pack once #1643's walker recognises MatMulNBitsBf as a quantised matmul: with that line applied
locally the e4b pack's refusal moves from 'the pack states no intermediate_size' to 'the pack has no
model.embed_tokens.weight'; without it the same pack still refuses at geometry, which is the before/after this was
measured on.
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A multi-component pack (`type: compositemodel`) splits itself in two: the files that state the geometry --
config.json, genai_config.json, model_config.json -- stay at the pack root, while the LLM graph and its Token .fconst
live in the component genai_config.json names (`decoder/`). #1644 taught graph_filename() to follow that relative path;
the .fconst lookup was still scanning only the directory it was handed.

Measured on amd/gemma-4-e2b-it-mobius-int4_rai_1.9.0_npu with its weight-carrying files present
(decoder/dd_metastate_Llm_Token_*.fconst 1.34 GiB, model.bin 1.36 GiB, model.onnx.data 0.57 GiB), before this change:

  1bit npu-pack info <pack root>
  the pack carries no Token .fconst either (no dd_metastate_Llm_Token_*.fconst): these weights are genuinely absent
  from the pack's external data, so this pack cannot be imported

-- for a pack that has one, two directories down. After this change the same command gets through the weights and the
fconst and refuses at the embedding component ("the pack has no model.embed_tokens.weight, and no embedding.onnx"),
which is the next thing a multi-component pack actually needs (engine #1661 reads it when present).

Pointing npu-pack at decoder/ instead is not a workaround: that directory has no config.json, genai_config.json or
model_config.json, so the geometry has nothing to read and the refusal becomes "the pack states no intermediate_size".
The two halves are only together at the root, which is why the lookup has to follow the pack's own declaration.

A flat pack is unchanged: the root is scanned first, and the component scan only runs when genai_config.json's decoder
filename carries a relative path that exists.
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…s when no file and no initializer dim states it (#1657)

* npu-pack: derive intermediate_size from the FFN pair's node attributes when no file and no initializer dim states it

The 1.9 external-data genre states the FFN width nowhere a reader currently looks: the weights are MatMulNBitsBf nodes
whose initializers carry dims [0] (the bytes live in a *.qweight.packed sibling), so plan()'s initializer-dimension
heuristic yields nothing and the importer refuses. The NODE carries K and N, and walk_graph already descends into the
If branches every OGA pack keeps its decoder in -- so the value is reachable without a second file format.

The rule is a pair that agrees with itself, not a name or a ratio: the down projection's K is the gate/up
projection's N, and the gate/up projection's K is the hidden size. On
amd/gemma-4-e4b-it-mobius-int4_rai_1.9.0_npu (hidden 2560, measured with onnx 1.23.2) 42 activations each feed two
(N=10240,K=2560) gate/up projections and 42 down projections are (N=2560,K=10240) -> 10240; its per-token 'mobius'
paths (N=512/2048, K=2560) have no matching down projection, so they cannot be mistaken for the FFN. Two widths that
both pair up return 0 and the caller keeps refusing rather than picking one.

Stacked on the model_config.json branch (#1644) because it needs graph_filename() to find decoder/model.onnx, and it
only fires on a real pack once #1643's walker recognises MatMulNBitsBf as a quantised matmul: with that line applied
locally the e4b pack's refusal moves from 'the pack states no intermediate_size' to 'the pack has no
model.embed_tokens.weight'; without it the same pack still refuses at geometry, which is the before/after this was
measured on.

* npu-pack: the no-intermediate_size refusal was pointing at a file that does not hold it

The message still said the FFN width 'has to come from the subgraph or from model.pb.bin'. Both halves of that are
wrong on the 1.9 gemma line: model.pb.bin is not an ONNX ModelProto at all (gemma-4-e4b's is 122,651 B with 0 nodes and
0 initializers), and the width is neither in a subgraph *file* nor in an initializer dim -- it is a node attribute
inside the If branch, which walk_graph already descends into and intermediate_size_from_graph now reads.

So the refusal says what was actually tried: the geometry files, the initializers, and the MatMulNBits/MatMulNBitsBf
node attributes including the If branches, with the reason each of them can come up empty on this line. A refusal that
names a path nobody needs costs the next reader the same hour it cost me.

* npu-pack: attention is not the FFN -- the derived width must not be q_dim

Review of this PR found the hole, and it is real: q_proj is (N = heads*head_dim, K = hidden) and o_proj is
(N = hidden, K = heads*head_dim), which is the same agree-with-itself shape the FFN has. With q_dim > hidden the old
rule returned the ATTENTION width -- 4096 where the true FFN was 9728 in the reviewer's reproduction -- from a function
whose whole contract is to refuse rather than guess. gemma-4 e4b hides it because 8 x 256 = 2048 < hidden 2560.

Two witnesses keep attention out, and neither is a guess:

  * the role names this genre actually carries (attn/q_proj/k_proj/v_proj/o_proj/qkv/lm_head are skipped). On a pack whose
    names are opaque this alone would not help, which is why it is not alone;
  * structure: gate AND up read the SAME activation tensor, so two nodes share both an input and an N. A lone q_proj
    never does, and o_proj has no partner. That is the witness attention cannot produce.

A fused gate_up is then handled explicitly: one node covers gate and up, so its N is 2*w and the down projection's K is
the same 2*w -- the agreeing value is 2w and the width is half of it.

Tests pin the reviewer's exact case plus the three that already existed:

  im-from-node-attrs: derived 10240 from the If branch's gate/up and down pair (hidden 2560)
  im-from-node-attrs: q_dim 4096 > hidden 2560, fused gate_up -> 9728 (must not be 4096)
  im-from-node-attrs: an attention-only graph wider than hidden yields 0, not the attention width
  im-from-node-attrs: two agreeing widths are refused rather than picked from
  im-from-node-attrs: a graph with no FFN pair yields 0 (the caller keeps refusing)

Re-measured on amd/gemma-4-e4b-it-mobius-int4_rai_1.9.0_npu's own files (with #1643's MatMulNBitsBf line applied
locally): the refusal is still the embed-tower one, so the name filter did not cost the real pack its derivation.

Also took the other reviewer's non-blocking note: the declaration now says the function parses the graph, so it is cheap
only because plan() calls it once.

* npu-pack: look for the Token .fconst where the pack says its decoder is

A multi-component pack (`type: compositemodel`) splits itself in two: the files that state the geometry --
config.json, genai_config.json, model_config.json -- stay at the pack root, while the LLM graph and its Token .fconst
live in the component genai_config.json names (`decoder/`). #1644 taught graph_filename() to follow that relative path;
the .fconst lookup was still scanning only the directory it was handed.

Measured on amd/gemma-4-e2b-it-mobius-int4_rai_1.9.0_npu with its weight-carrying files present
(decoder/dd_metastate_Llm_Token_*.fconst 1.34 GiB, model.bin 1.36 GiB, model.onnx.data 0.57 GiB), before this change:

  1bit npu-pack info <pack root>
  the pack carries no Token .fconst either (no dd_metastate_Llm_Token_*.fconst): these weights are genuinely absent
  from the pack's external data, so this pack cannot be imported

-- for a pack that has one, two directories down. After this change the same command gets through the weights and the
fconst and refuses at the embedding component ("the pack has no model.embed_tokens.weight, and no embedding.onnx"),
which is the next thing a multi-component pack actually needs (engine #1661 reads it when present).

Pointing npu-pack at decoder/ instead is not a workaround: that directory has no config.json, genai_config.json or
model_config.json, so the geometry has nothing to read and the refusal becomes "the pack states no intermediate_size".
The two halves are only together at the root, which is why the lookup has to follow the pack's own declaration.

A flat pack is unchanged: the root is scanned first, and the component scan only runs when genai_config.json's decoder
filename carries a relative path that exists.

* npu-pack: read the embedding component where genai_config.json names it, with its data beside it

The multi-component packs keep their embedding graph at `embedding/model.onnx` with a 10.26 GiB `model.onnx.data` beside
it, and genai_config.json names exactly that. read_embedding_component() looked only for a flat `<pack>/embedding.onnx`,
so a pack that declares its component was reported as "the pack has no model.embed_tokens.weight, and no embedding.onnx"
(measured on amd/gemma-4-e2b-it-mobius-int4_rai_1.9.0_npu).

  * the graph path is now `model.embedding.filename` when genai_config.json declares it and the file exists (relative
    paths only, no "..", the same rule graph_filename() uses), falling back to the flat `embedding.onnx`;
  * the external data is resolved next to the GRAPH rather than at the pack root, because a component's tensors name it
    with a bare filename (`embedding.onnx.data` sits in `embedding/`, not at the root).

After this the same pack gets past "no embedding.onnx" and refuses with what is actually true of it: "embedding.onnx has
no embed_tokens table + scales" -- the component is f32 and unquantised (`embedding.embed_tokens.weight` (262144, 1536)
f32 plus a per-layer table (262144, 8960) and a 256-wide projection norm), while the reader wants a 4-bit packed table
with scales. That is a separate mechanism and it is not claimed here; this commit only stops the reader looking in the
wrong place for a component the pack declares.

* npu-pack: read an f32 embedding component, and refuse a per-layer one by name

engine#1725. The gemma-4 components are f32 and UNQUANTISED: `embedding.embed_tokens.weight (262144, 1536)` f32
external, plus `embedding.embed_tokens_per_layer.weight (262144, 8960)` -- 35 layers x 256 head_dim, which is what the
decoder's declared `per_layer_inputs` input consumes -- plus a 256-wide projection norm. The reader required an
`embed_tokens` table WITH a `*scales*` tensor, i.e. a 4-bit packed table, so a component that had just been found was
reported as "no embed_tokens table + scales". That message is why this looked like a lookup for hours.

Slice 1, deliberately not the whole mechanism:

  * an unquantised f32 `embed_tokens` table is read (bounds-checked against its external data, converted by the container
    to BF16 the way it already converts every other table) -- exact, and 1.61 GiB for a 262144x1536 table;
  * a component that ALSO carries `embed_tokens_per_layer` is refused BY NAME: the per-layer table feeds the decoder's
    per_layer_inputs and no per-layer embedding mechanism exists here yet, so importing would hand the decoder a model
    without an input it asks for. The refusal says the table's name, what it feeds, and the issue;
  * anything unquantised that is not f32 is refused with its dtype rather than silently mis-read.

Slice 2 -- the per-layer mechanism itself (host-side gather vs a container representation, 9.40 GiB f32 -> 4.70 GiB
BF16) -- is not claimed here and is what #1725 is for. This slice makes the diagnosis true and lets a pack whose decoder
does not need per-layer inputs through.

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Co-authored-by: bong-water-water-bong <bong-water-water-bong@1bit.gg>
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