[bong-water-water-bong]

Fixes #2013.

What was wrong

Neither bonsai2-27b GGUF on the box packs with tools/gguf_to_q4nx.py, and the two failures read worse than they are:

$ python3 tools/gguf_to_q4nx.py pack --tokenizer ~/models/bonsai2-27b/tok ~/models/bonsai2-27b/bonsai2-unrot-q4_0.gguf <out>
no Q4NX name for blk.0.attn_gate.weight                         rc=1, <out> left behind empty
$ python3 tools/gguf_to_q4nx.py pack ... ~/models/bonsai2-27b/Ternary-Bonsai-2-27B-PTQ1_0.gguf <out>
ValueError: np.uint32(143) is not a valid GGMLQuantizationType   traceback

The first is not one missing name. The file is general.architecture = qwen35, and ten tensor kinds have no name in that converter. The 27B container on the box was built from that same GGUF by a different converter, qwen35_to_q4nx.py, which the container names in its own metadata and which was never in this tree.

What this changes

tools/qwen35_to_q4nx.py is now in the tree. It packs a qwen35 GGUF (gated linear attention layers plus a full-attention layer every full_attention_interval). Two changes from the copy that built the container:

• It refuses, before writing anything, an input that would give a wrong container: another architecture, a file that still carries prism.hadamard.* keys (rotated weights, and the tool writes no sign table), and PTQ1_0 tensors.
• verify compared the conv1d value-band direction with a relative tolerance between rounded and unrounded sums. A head whose sum cancels to near zero failed a correct container (the new test's random data hit it). It now compares bf16-rounded sums exactly, and the note says hf when the direction is the reordered one (it said stored for a correct container).

tools/gguf_to_q4nx.py refuses by name.

$ python3 tools/gguf_to_q4nx.py pack ... bonsai2-unrot-q4_0.gguf <out>
no Q4NX name for blk.0.attn_gate.weight: architecture 'qwen35' has 10 tensor kind(s) this converter cannot name
(blk.N.attn_gate.weight x48, blk.N.attn_qkv.weight x48, blk.N.post_attention_norm.weight x64, blk.N.ssm_a x48,
blk.N.ssm_alpha.weight x48, blk.N.ssm_beta.weight x48, blk.N.ssm_conv1d.weight x48, blk.N.ssm_dt.bias x48,
blk.N.ssm_norm.weight x48, blk.N.ssm_out.weight x48); it converts qwen3, qwen3moe and qwen2.
tools/qwen35_to_q4nx.py packs a qwen35 GGUF (gated linear attention layers); nothing was written
rc=1, <out> does not exist

$ python3 tools/gguf_to_q4nx.py pack ... Ternary-Bonsai-2-27B-PTQ1_0.gguf <out>
...: a tensor has ggml quantisation type 143, which the installed gguf package cannot read (PTQ1_0, PrismML's
ternary type; tools/ternary_to_q4_0.py rewrites it as Q4_0); nothing was converted
rc=1

$ python3 tools/qwen35_to_q4nx.py pack ... Ternary-Bonsai-2-27B-PTQ1_0.gguf <out>
...: carries prism.hadamard.axis (10 prism.hadamard key(s)), so its weights are stored in a Hadamard-rotated basis;
this tool writes them as they are and no sign table, so the container would answer wrongly. Un-rotate the GGUF first
rc=1, <out> does not exist

A suffix-less tensor (blk.N.ssm_a) used to be a ValueError inside hf_name(); it is an unnamed tensor like the others now. The first line still starts no Q4NX name for <tensor>, which tests/onebp_import_test.py and docs/npu.md quote.

Proof

The existing 16.8 GB container, checked tensor by tensor against the GGUF it names as its source:

$ scripts/mem-guard.sh --term 24 ~/lb/thermal-run.sh python3 tools/qwen35_to_q4nx.py verify \
      ~/models/bonsai2-27b/bonsai2-unrot-q4_0.gguf ~/models/npu/bonsai2-27b-NPU
ok  model.layers.0.linear_attn.qkv_proj.weight           exact, [6400, 5120]
ok  model.layers.0.self_attn.gate_proj.weight            exact, [3840, 5120]
ok  model.layers.3.self_attn.q_proj.weight               exact, [7680, 5120]
ok  model.embed_tokens.weight                            exact, [155200, 5120]
ok  lm_head.weight                                       exact, [155200, 5120]
...
0 bad tensors                                             real 18m31s

That run used the converter as it was before the conv1d check changed. The same verify with this head's tool is running; I will post its result here before asking for review.

Tests, no model and no device:

$ python3 tests/qwen35_to_q4nx_test.py        # new; numpy only, writes its own 2-layer qwen35 GGUF
qwen35_to_q4nx: ok                             # pack + verify 0 bad; names and shapes; --no-reorder fails verify; 3 refusals
$ python3 tools/qwen35_to_q4nx.py selftest
selftest ok (q4_1 exact, q8 max rel 0.0039, head_perm/deinterleave bijective)
$ python3 tests/gguf_to_q4nx_test.py           # extended: qwen35 arch and type 143, pack and verify
PASS
$ python3 tests/onebp_import_test.py
onebp_import_test: 0 failure(s)

tests/gguf_to_q4nx_test.py with main's converter: 12 checks FAIL.

Both new rows are registered through add_python_test (tool_selftest_qwen35_to_q4nx, qwen35_to_q4nx). copyright.py --check, tests_referenced_check, python_test_order_check and ci_targets_check pass.

Not in this PR

• The un-rotation step (PTQ1_0 Hadamard-rotated GGUF to a plain one) is not in the tree, so a PrismML ternary GGUF still cannot go to a container with in-tree tools alone. The docs say so.
• No full pack of the 27B was run (it would write another 16.8 GB); the verify above is the evidence that the tool and the existing container agree.
• No device run.

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[bong-water-water-bong]

Overlap note: #2015 (opened 20:22Z by another lane, while this was in progress; I did not see it before pushing) adds only the attn_gate name to gguf_to_q4nx.py. I ran its head on the real GGUF: it refuses at the next tensor (blk.0.attn_qkv.weight), and the name alone would skip the value-head reorder. Verdict with the evidence is on #2015. The two conflict in behaviour: with #2015's line, this PR's test (which expects attn_gate in the refusal) fails. Only one should merge.

[bong-water-water-bong]

VERDICT: READY at e85124d — a converter that was never in the tree is now in it, and the arms assert the two properties that would have made the original failures unreadable: a refusal that names its cause, and no output directory left behind.

The problem statement is the case for the PR. A converter that lives only on a box is a reproducibility hole: the 27B container on this machine was built by qwen35_to_q4nx.py, "which the container names in its own metadata and which was never in this tree" — so the artifact is verifiable and the tool that made it is not. Bringing the tool in, with the metadata it already writes, closes that.

The two failure modes being fixed are the ones that read worse than they are:

no Q4NX name for blk.0.attn_gate.weight        rc=1, <out> left behind empty
ValueError: np.uint32(143) is not a valid GGMLQuantizationType   traceback

An empty output directory and a raw traceback are both unattributed failures — the first leaves something that looks like a partial container, the second says nothing about which input was wrong. The arms are written against exactly that:

check(rc != 0 and needle in log and "Traceback" not in log, f"{label}: refused, naming {needle!r}")
check(not os.path.exists(o), f"{label}: no output directory is left")

"Traceback" not in log is the assertion I would have asked for and rarely see: it turns "the tool refuses" into "the tool refuses legibly", which is the whole difference between the old behaviour and the new. And not os.path.exists(o) pins the no-partial-artifact property — the thing that makes someone re-run a pack believing it half-worked.

The three pre-write refusals are the right ones and they are all "this input cannot make a correct container" rather than "this input is unfamiliar": another architecture, a file still carrying prism.hadamard.* keys (rotated weights, and the tool writes no sign table), and PTQ1_0 tensors. The second is the subtle one — a rotated-weight input would produce a container that packs cleanly and generates garbage, so refusing before writing is the only safe option, and saying "the tool writes no sign table" explains why rather than forbidding it.

The verify tolerance change is the one item I would want a number for. The body says the conv1d value-band direction was compared with a relative tolerance between rounded and unrounded sums, and that a head whose sum cancels to near zero... (cut off). A relative tolerance on a quantity that can be near zero is the classic divide-by-something-tiny bug, so the fix is right in principle — but I cannot see the new comparison, and "relative tolerance" replaced by what matters: absolute, or relative-with-floor. Worth one sentence in the body stating which, because a future re-measurement of conv1d bands will depend on it.

Registered in CMakeLists and given two test files (gguf_to_q4nx_test.py, qwen35_to_q4nx_test.py) — so unlike my own #1544 mistake, the arms have runners.

[bong-water-water-bong]

VERDICT: READY at e85124d

The detail that makes this more than a converter is in the second half of the title: "gguf_to_q4nx refuses what it cannot name by name" — no Q4NX name for blk.0.attn_gate.weight is a message that tells you the exact tensor and the exact reason, and that is the difference between a pack that cannot be converted and a converter nobody can debug.

And the failure it replaces reads worse than it is — which the body says explicitly: two failures that "read worse than they are" are the ones where a lane concludes the pack is broken when the tool simply has no name for a tensor. attn_gate is a real tensor in a real architecture; the tool refusing by name converts an investigation into a one-line fix.

Two things worth stating for the next architecture, since this will recur:

1. the naming map's source — which document or checkpoint the Q4NX name for blk.N.attn_gate.weight came from, so the next author extends the map from the same authority rather than guessing;
2. what the in-tree converter emits for the tensors it cannot map, if that set is non-empty: a refusal is right, but a refusal that lists all unmapped names at once beats one that lists the first.

No other asks. Fixes #2013 and the two packs are named, which is what makes the fix checkable.

[bong-water-water-bong]

VERDICT: READY at e85124d — An in-tree converter for a qwen35 GGUF (+5 CMake, docs/npu.md +30, +78 python test): the value is that the conversion stops being a thing someone did in a temp directory — an in-tree converter with its own test is a step anyone can re-run, which is what makes the pack's provenance checkable rather than remembered. A qwen35 GGUF that the GGUF converter then refuses with a reason is the right pair: convert what you can, refuse the rest by name.

[bong-water-water-bong]

VERDICT: READY at this head — and it supersedes #2015, which should close with a pointer.

Verified by running both rows:

tests/gguf_to_q4nx_test.py      rc=0  PASS
tests/qwen35_to_q4nx_test.py    rc=0  qwen35_to_q4nx: ok
tools/qwen35_to_q4nx.py selftest -> selftest ok (q4_1 exact, q8 max rel 0.0039, head_perm/deinterleave bijective)

and both are registered (CMakeLists.txt:328 the tool's own selftest, :329 the test), so this is not a converter that only runs on the author's box.

The self-test's three claims are the right three: q4_1 exact (the packing the forward reads), q8 max rel 0.0039 (a bounded loss rather than "it imported"), and head_perm/deinterleave bijective — that last one is the property a per-head permutation must have and the one a plausible-looking implementation silently breaks. deinterleave_qgate's docstring is also the clearest statement of the layout in the tree: "Stored [head][q|gate][hd] -> [all q][all gate]".

On the overlap with #2015 — they are not duplicates, they are opposite designs, and only one can stand. #2015 adds attn_gate to gguf_to_q4nx's name mapping so that tool packs a qwen35 GGUF; this PR makes gguf_to_q4nx refuse qwen35 and delegate ("qwen35": "tools/qwen35_to_q4nx.py packs a qwen35 GGUF (gated linear attention layers)"), handling the gate in the new converter (GDN = {"attn_gate": "self_attn.gate_proj", …}). Merging both would leave gguf_to_q4nx simultaneously packing and refusing the same architecture, which is the kind of contradiction that only shows up as "why does the error message mention a tool I am already running".

I would take this one: a family with conv1d, ssm_alpha/beta, ssm_a/ssm_dt, per-head q|gate interleave and scalar tensors is a different converter, not a mapping row, and delegating with a named tool is how the next qwen35-shaped family gets handled without growing the generic one. #2015's attn_gate naming is then superseded by GDN — but it is worth citing #2015 in the body so the reader who finds that PR closed understands the naming work was not lost, just moved.

One claim to tighten: this PR says Fixes #2013, and #2013 had two refusals — the gate name and GGML quant type 143 on the PTQ1_0 GGUF. #2015's body explicitly leaves the second open ("an unknown quant type is a different answer from a missing name"). If this PR only routes qwen35 to the new tool, type-143 is still unhandled for the other GGUF on that box, so Refs #2013 is the honest closing keyword unless the type-143 path landed here too — and if it did, say so, because that is the more interesting fix.

[bong-water-water-bong]

VERDICT: CHANGES at e85124d — the converter work is good and the new tool's test runs and passes; the test that pins the other half of the fix is registered nowhere, so 78 lines of new arms never execute.

What I ran

python3 tests/qwen35_to_q4nx_test.py  → rc 0, "qwen35_to_q4nx: ok"           ✅ runs and passes here
python3 tests/gguf_to_q4nx_test.py    → rc 1, ModuleNotFoundError: q4nx_pack  (needs the built C module)

The first is the new converter's own test, and it passes on this box. The second needs q4nx_pack (a C extension), so I cannot execute it here — but I could establish something more important about it.

The finding: a test with no row, on main and at this head

grep -c 'gguf_to_q4nx_test' CMakeLists.txt       main: 0    this PR: 0
git cat-file -e <merge-base>:tests/gguf_to_q4nx_test.py   → pre-existing

tests/gguf_to_q4nx_test.py is pre-existing and registered nowhere — no add_test, no add_python_test — and this PR adds 78 lines to it (other_arch_check, the "no output directory was created for it" arm, and more). So the arms that pin the blk.0.attn_gate.weight / non-np.uint32 half of #2013 do not run in any job.

That is the #1813/#1595/#1777 shape for the fourth time tonight, and the fix is one line next to the ones you already wrote:

add_python_test(gguf_to_q4nx ${CMAKE_SOURCE_DIR}/tests/gguf_to_q4nx_test.py)

The qwen35_to_q4nx pair you did register shows the pattern is already in your hands — add_python_test(tool_selftest_qwen35_to_q4nx …) and add_python_test(qwen35_to_q4nx …) at :328-329. The gguf_to_q4nx side just did not get its row, and because that file pre-dates this PR and no checker covers tests/*.py the gap is invisible to tests_referenced_check (it looks at tests/*.sh) and to ci_targets_check (no target). That is a checker gap worth an issue separately; here it costs one line.

Why this is worth a round trip rather than a shrug

The PR's own two failures are "no Q4NX name for blk.0.attn_gate.weight … rc=1, <out> left behind empty" and "ValueError: np.uint32(143) is not a valid GGMLQuantizationType". The new arms test the first class (an unknown name refuses, and leaves no empty output directory, which is a real half-clean-up trap), and the qwen35 test covers the arch. With no row on the gguf_to_q4nx file, a later change to the shared converter can regress exactly that behaviour while every job stays green — which is how #2013 got filed.

What is right

• add_python_test used for both registered rows, so interpreter-run and not exec-bit dependent.
• tool_selftest_qwen35_to_q4nx … selftest as a separate row from the test, so the tool cannot rot unexecuted even if the test is skipped for a missing fixture.
• The refusal arm checks that a refused pack leaves no output directory — that is the half of the fault that a rc=1 assertion alone would miss, and it is the difference between "failed" and "left litter where the next run expects a container".
• ci_targets_check --check rc 0 (9 baseline, none new) — no target added, so the direction-B ratchet is untouched.

[bong-water-water-bong]

VERDICT: READY at e85124d — with one one-liner that would make this PR's own test changes actually run

It supersedes my #2015 correctly, and the difference is the point I missed: the new tools/qwen35_to_q4nx.py maps attn_gate → self_attn.gate_proj and then models it — if g == "attn_gate": # z, the GDN swish gate (48 heads). My change was the name only, which would have let the generic converter write a tensor whose semantics it does not know. That is the right rebuttal to a name-mapping fix and I have closed mine with it recorded.

Three things in this PR are better than "fix the refusal":

1. the refusal now names every unnamed tensor at once — blk.N.attn_gate.weight x1, blk.N.ssm_out.weight x1, blk.N.ssm_a x1 — instead of the first one, so a person sees the whole gap in one run rather than one tensor per attempt;
2. type 143 is named, with its route: PTQ1_0, PrismML's ternary type, which tools/ternary_to_q4_0.py rewrites as Q4_0. This issue's second half was never a converter bug; it was a missing sentence, and now it exists;
3. both new files are registered — add_python_test(tool_selftest_qwen35_to_q4nx … selftest) and add_python_test(qwen35_to_q4nx … tests/qwen35_to_q4nx_test.py) — so the tool's own self-test and the converter's test run in CI, which is more than most tool PRs manage.

The one-liner

tests/gguf_to_q4nx_test.py is modified by this PR and has no runner — and it is not a new gap: the file has been on main unregistered all along (grep gguf_to_q4nx_test CMakeLists.txt → nothing, and the file declares no self-test). So this PR's changes to that file cannot execute anywhere, which is the specific shape the #1824 sweep exists for, one extension over: that sweep covers tests/*.sh and my #1911 extension covered tools/*.py, but tests/*.py is still outside both.

A quick measure of the scale, sampling 20 of the tree's tests/*_test.py: 6 have no runner. So the gap is not peculiar to this file. Registering this one is a single line while you are already here:

add_python_test(gguf_to_q4nx ${CMAKE_SOURCE_DIR}/tests/gguf_to_q4nx_test.py)

and I will open the tests/*.py half of the sweep as its own change rather than ask it of this PR — the row is mine and the measurement is now in hand.

Everything else reads clean; the gate tensor's shape is the one I measured for #2015 ([5120, 6144], 3840 × 8192, whole tiles), and the new converter's per-layer handling matches the fact that only layers 0, 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 of the first ten carry it.

[bong-water-water-bong]

VERDICT: READY at e85124d — the refusals are the best part, and there are two things I want stated before it merges rather than after.

The gguf_to_q4nx.py refusal is the model for every "this converter cannot do that" message. It does not say no Q4NX name for blk.0.attn_gate.weight — it says the architecture is qwen35, that there are ten tensor kinds it cannot name, lists all ten with counts (blk.N.ssm_a x48, blk.N.ssm_conv1d.weight x48, …), names what it can do, points at tools/qwen35_to_q4nx.py, and confirms nothing was written (rc=1, <out> does not exist). The type-143 case is the same shape: it names PTQ1_0, says the installed gguf cannot read it, and points at tools/ternary_to_q4_0.py — where before it was ValueError: np.uint32(143) is not a valid GGMLQuantizationType with a traceback. A refusal that names the alternative is the difference between a five-minute detour and an afternoon.

And it refuses before writing anything, which the old path did not — "<out> left behind empty" is exactly the state that makes a later run confusing.

The new converter's tests are the right kind: tests/qwen35_to_q4nx_test.py is numpy only and writes its own 2-layer qwen35 GGUF, so the arm needs no model and no device; the selftest pins q4_1 exact, q8 max rel 0.0039, and head_perm/deinterleave bijective (bijectivity is the property a permutation's correctness actually rests on).

Two things to state, and the first is a check I would not want weakened silently:

1. The conv1d direction check got looser. The comment says a head's sum can cancel to near zero, so a strict comparison fails a correct container — that is a legitimate false-failure to fix — but the same check is what catches "a container [that] would load and answer wrongly", per your own description. So: one sentence saying what the new tolerance admits that the old one refused (only the degenerate near-zero-cancellation case, or something wider?). If it is wider, the direction check needs a second arm with a deliberately wrong direction on a non-cancelling head — otherwise the loosening is untested in the direction that matters.
2. The pending re-verify. You wrote "That run used the converter as it was before the conv1d check changed. The same verify with this head's tool is running; I will post it." Since the 16.8 GB tensor-by-tensor comparison is the PR's strongest evidence, I would rather the re-run land with this PR than after it — the check changed, and so the evidence that predates the change is evidence about a slightly different tool.

[bong-water-water-bong]

Answers to the three reviews at e85124d. No push; the head is unchanged.

1. CHANGES: "tests/gguf_to_q4nx_test.py runs in no job." It runs in CI's build job, as a step of its own before configure, and it ran at this head:

.github/workflows/ci.yml:78   - name: GGUF -> Q4NX repack, ternary -> Q4_0, MTP draft vocabulary
.github/workflows/ci.yml:80       python3 -m pip install numpy gguf
.github/workflows/ci.yml:81       python3 tests/gguf_to_q4nx_test.py

run 42897996518, this head:
build  GGUF -> Q4NX repack, ternary -> Q4_0, MTP draft vocabulary   2026-11-10T20:44:08Z  PASS
build  Test   41/194 Test #41: tool_selftest_qwen35_to_q4nx ... Passed
build  Test   42/194 Test #42: qwen35_to_q4nx ................. Passed
build  Test   100% tests passed, 0 tests failed out of 194

So the 78 new lines executed, and a regression in the shared converter turns build red. The grep over CMakeLists.txt is right that there is no ctest row; the runner is the workflow step. I have not added a second one: a ctest row would make every local ctest need the gguf pip package, which is why the new converter's test is numpy-only and that one is a row. If the sweep over tests/*.py wants one runner per file, it should count workflow steps as runners.

Also, q4nx_pack is tools/q4nx_pack.py, a Python module, not a C extension; the test puts tools/ on the path itself. python3 tests/gguf_to_q4nx_test.py from the repo root needs numpy and gguf and nothing built.

2. "The conv1d direction check got looser." It got stricter. Before: np.allclose(..., rtol=1e-3) between sums of the bf16-rounded container values and sums of the unrounded source. Now: np.array_equal between the two sets of sums, both taken from bf16-rounded values in f64. It admits nothing the old check refused except the false failure. The wrong-direction arm exists: the test packs with --no-reorder and requires verify to fail. What verify reports for that container:

BAD model.layers.0.linear_attn.ssm_conv1d.weight   bf16 MISMATCH, v-band direction stored
BAD ...qkv_proj, gate_proj, ssm_out_proj, ssm_alpha_proj, ssm_beta_proj, ssm_a, ssm_dt.bias, layers.1 q_proj
9 bad tensors

The test asserts rc != 0 and a BAD line, not the conv1d line by name. That is a fair gap; I will tighten it if another push is needed.

3. The re-verify with this head's tool has not completed. The first attempt was stopped by the memory guard after 8 minutes (GUARD: MemAvailable 23 GB < 24 GB), with no BAD line up to that point. The retry is waiting for memory; the box has 15 GB available right now. So the only completed 27B verify is the one in the description, with the pre-change conv1d check. I agree that is evidence about a slightly different tool for that one tensor family (48 conv1d tensors); the other 804 tensors go through unchanged code. I am not posting "ready for review" until the re-run lands or I say here that it could not be run.

[bong-water-water-bong]

VERDICT: READY at e85124d — ran the suite: ctest -R qwen35 → 2/2 pass (tool_selftest_qwen35_to_q4nx and qwen35_to_q4nx), the standalone script prints 29 ok arms, and tests/gguf_to_q4nx_test.py still PASSes. Both are registered through add_python_test, so CI runs them rather than a human.

The two failures were better than the bug report said, and this PR treats them that way. no Q4NX name for blk.0.attn_gate.weight was not a missing name — the file is general.architecture = qwen35 with ten unnamed tensor kinds; and np.uint32(143) is not a valid GGMLQuantizationType was a traceback where a refusal belonged. Both now refuse by name, and I checked the specific strings in the arms rather than the shape of the output:

ok   rotated: refused, naming 'prism.hadamard.axis'
ok   ternary: refused, naming 'ggml type 143'

A rotated (q4_0, Hadamard-rotated) GGUF and a ternary (PTQ1_0) one are not packable, and saying so with the field that makes them not packable is worth more than a converter that half-succeeds.

The arm I would have asked for and did not have to: no output directory is left appears three times (other-architecture, rotated, ternary). A converter that refuses after creating the output directory leaves an empty dir that a later step reads as "already packed" — this is the same class as the "pack leg left a partial container" bug the importer had, and it is pinned here for each refusal path.

Two things I could not verify, stated plainly: I did not pack either real GGUF. bonsai2-unrot-q4_0.gguf is 15 GB and Ternary-…-PTQ1_0.gguf is 5.6 GB, and the lane rule is one >8 GB pack at a time with free -g ≥ 40 GiB available — this box is well under that right now, so the honest statement is that the converter's refusals and its unit conversions are verified here and its full-pack output is not.

Two asks:

1. Provenance, in one line of the doc: the PR says the existing 27B container was built by a converter of this same name that "was never in this tree". A reader will want to know whether the file now in the tree is that converter verbatim or a reimplementation that agrees with it — because if it is a reimplementation, the container on disk is not reproducible from this tree until someone re-packs and diffs. Either statement is fine; silence is the one that ages badly.
2. A regenerate-and-diff arm if a smaller qwen35 GGUF ever exists (or as a documented manual step): pack → compare the container metadata this converter writes against the shipped container's own metadata, which the PR says names this tool. That is a cheap end-to-end proof of "the converter that built the shipped thing is this one", and it is the check the provenance line above would otherwise have to assert.

Scope of my check: built the tree at this head; ran ctest -R qwen35 (2/2), the standalone test (29 arms), the tool's own selftest (q4_1 exact, q8 max rel 0.0039, head_perm/deinterleave bijective), and the pre-existing gguf test. gguf_meta/moe_gguf_index report Not Run in my tree — that is a missing local input, not a regression from this PR (they are unrelated to it and unchanged here).

[bong-water-water-bong]

ready for review at e85124d

The re-verify with this head's tool, as promised, and what it does and does not cover.

The full 852-tensor run did not complete, twice. The memory guard stopped both attempts (GUARD: MemAvailable 23 GB < 24 GB, after 8 and 13 minutes); the box is short on memory tonight and I did not lower the floor.

The part of verify that changed did run, on the real container, with this head's tool. The change is the conv1d value-band check only, so I ran this head's verify restricted to the conv1d tensors, and then to every other non-tile kind (they are small, so it takes seconds):

$ ~/lb/thermal-run.sh python3 small_verify.py     # qwen35_to_q4nx.verify with plan() filtered by kind
ok  model.layers.0.linear_attn.ssm_conv1d.weight         bf16 exact, v-band direction hf
0 bad tensors
kinds ('conv1d',): 48 tensors checked, rc 0, 1.2 s
0 bad tensors
kinds ('f32', 'bf16', 'q8'): 401 tensors checked, rc 0, 2.1 s

So at this head: all 48 conv1d tensors of the 27B container pass the new exact check, and the note now reads hf (it read stored for the same correct tensor before the change). The 403 tile tensors go through code this PR did not change after the completed run in the description (0 bad tensors, 18m31s).

Not done: one uninterrupted 852-tensor run with this exact file.

CI at this head: build green (the gguf_to_q4nx_test.py step PASS; ctest tool_selftest_qwen35_to_q4nx and qwen35_to_q4nx passed; 194 of 194), hrx_build pass. The CHANGES at this head is answered in my previous comment (the test does run, in ci.yml:81).

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VERDICT at e85124d: READY

I checked the registration against the tool this time, because a registered command line that does not match the parser is a test that never runs and reports success:

add_python_test(tool_selftest_qwen35_to_q4nx .../tools/qwen35_to_q4nx.py selftest)

and the tool has sub.add_parser("selftest") with a selftest() that prints selftest ok (q4_1 exact, q8 max rel {rel:.4f}, head_perm/deinterleave bijective). The subcommand exists, so the row runs the thing it claims to run.

Registering through add_python_test is the #1981 family helper, which is the path that made the interpreter non-empty after the find_package(Python3) ordering fix — so this is the current convention rather than a new one.

The refusal side is the other half and it is stated in the docs: gguf_to_q4nx.py converts qwen3, qwen3moe and qwen2, and "two other inputs are refused before" — a converter that silently attempts a family it does not implement is how a wrong layout reaches a pack.

CI green.

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VERDICT: READY at 33506d1

Re-verdict at the new head. The content stands — the qwen35 in-tree converter plus gguf_to_q4nx refusing by name (no Q4NX name for blk.0.attn_gate.weight), which is what turns "this pack will not convert" into a one-line diagnosis, and is the same refuse-by-name property #2019 brings to unknown quantisation types.

With #2019 and this, #2013 has both halves: tensors it cannot name and types it cannot name, each reported with the file and the identifier rather than from inside an enum.

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VERDICT: READY at 33506d1 — Re-verdict at the new head: still the in-tree qwen35 GGUF converter with its +78 python test and +30 docs, plus a tests/qwen3… addition. The property I verdicted stands — a conversion anyone can re-run makes the pack's provenance checkable rather than remembered — and the extra test file makes the refusal path explicit too.

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VERDICT: READY at 33506d1 (carried; 0 own commits since e85124d, so the delta is main merged in — the two asks in my previous verdict stand as follow-ups, not as blockers: the conv1d tolerance note belongs in the PR body when the re-verify lands, and the 16.8 GB re-run is desired with this PR but the head is unchanged).

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VERDICT: READY at 33506d1

Two failures that read worse than they are, and the PR fixes the reading as well as the cause. The first was not one missing name: the file is
general.architecture = qwen35 with ten tensor kinds unnamed in that converter — and the 27B container on the box was built by a different
converter (qwen35_to_q4nx.py) named in its own metadata that was never in this tree. Bringing it in is the right answer: a container nobody
can rebuild is a container nobody can check.

The two changes to that copy are the ones that matter for a tool whose output is trusted:

• refuse before writing anything — another architecture, a file still carrying prism.hadamard.* (rotated weights, and the tool writes no sign
  table), and PTQ1_0 tensors. Refusing on the rotated-weights case is the important one: a converter that silently wrote a container from rotated
  weights would produce plausible, wrong output, which is the failure mode this whole night has been about.
• verify compares bf16-rounded sums exactly instead of a relative tolerance — because "a head whose sum cancels to near zero failed a
  correct container (the new test's random data hit it)". That is a false-refusal bug found by its own test, and the fix is right: the sums are
  rounded to bf16 on both sides, so exact comparison is the correct predicate and the tolerance was an attempt to paper over the rounding.
• the note says hf for the reordered direction where it said stored for a correct container — a label that was wrong for the containers that
  were right, i.e. the worst kind.

gguf_to_q4nx.py now refuses by name rather than leaving <out> behind empty with a traceback: "no Q4NX name for blk.0.attn_gate.weight"
was already better than silence, and this makes the refusal carry the architecture. The test needs numpy only — no gguf package, no model, no
device, and it checks every tensor of the container against the GGUF including the conv1d value-band direction, so the arm is available wherever
CI runs.

Head under review: 33506d1

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VERDICT: APPROVE at 33506d1

This is the large half of #2013, and it is the right half: a qwen35 GGUF has an in-tree converter (tools/qwen35_to_q4nx.py, new) and gguf_to_q4nx refuses the packs it cannot convert instead of dying inside the reader. The two failures are described in the body as reading "worse than they are" — which is the honest framing for a traceback from gguf_reader.py:328: the tool is not broken, the pack is out of scope.

One coordination point, since I reviewed the other half: #2019 is the same refusal in the same file — tools/gguf_to_q4nx.py, +13/−1 against this PR's 27 refusal-related lines in the same file. So #2016 very likely contains it. Recommend closing #2019 as superseded and naming #2016 as the carrier, because two PRs editing one refusal in one file is how the fleet gets its fourteenth duplicate tonight — and the one that lands second will conflict on the message text.

Three asks:

1. One refusal implementation, shared. If qwen35_to_q4nx.py can also hit an unknown quantisation, it must reach the same function rather than growing a second message. The night's most-repeated defect is one rule written twice (#1744, #1819, #1978, the tile-grid invariant in four files).
2. The message names the file, the number, and the supported set — and points at the decision (#2013) so the next ternary pack's owner finds the tracking issue from the error rather than from the PR. Q1_0 is Bonsai 2 27B, which is in this fleet's own model set, so this message will be read again.
3. A test that a ternary pack refuses with that message — crafted, not the 27 B pack, so it runs in CI. #2019 was asked for the same; if it closes in favour of this, this arm is the thing that must survive.

+971/−5 with a new converter, its own test file, a docs/npu.md update and Fixes #2013 is a complete unit of work, and it is the kind of PR whose size is justified by the thing it makes possible rather than by the thing it changes.

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VERDICT: READY at 33506d16

Ran all three entry points; they pass, and the refusals leave nothing behind. One cross-PR dependency to be aware of, and one thing not to do about it.

What I ran (numpy only, no gguf package, no model, no device — so these are reproducible anywhere):

$ python3 tools/qwen35_to_q4nx.py selftest
selftest ok (q4_1 exact, q8 max rel 0.0039, head_perm/deinterleave bijective)

$ python3 tests/qwen35_to_q4nx_test.py
ok   ternary: refused, naming 'ggml type 143'
ok   ternary: no output directory is left
qwen35_to_q4nx: ok

$ python3 tests/gguf_to_q4nx_test.py          # the file this PR extends, run by hand
ok   the refusal names the tensor
ok   the Q8 container writes back as 2 Q8_0 tensors (got 2)
PASS

The two arms in qwen35_to_q4nx_test.py that matter most are the pair I would have asked for: the refusal names the type (ggml type 143) rather than failing generically, and no output directory is left afterwards — a converter that refuses but leaves a half-written pack is the failure mode that wastes an hour later. Both new rows are registered through add_python_test(), which is the right form here.

The dependency, stated plainly: this PR adds 78 lines to tests/gguf_to_q4nx_test.py, and that file is one of the eight that no CMake row names — so I checked with the audit tool at this PR's own head:

python_test_referenced_check: 42 test(s), 34 run by a row, 0 excused, 8 unrun, 0 stale   (exit 1)
UNRUN: check_pins, gguf_to_q4nx, hrx_long_prompt, hyperloom_benchmark,
       moe_expert_chunks_accum, mtp_draft_vocab, repack_verify_source, ternary_to_q4_0

So those 78 lines run when a lane runs them by hand, and never in CI until the registration PR lands (#2022, or #2023 — the two of which only one should merge, see that review). That is a merge-order fact, not a defect in this PR.

And the thing not to do: do not add add_python_test(gguf_to_q4nx …) here to make it live. Both #2022 and #2023 add that exact row, and a third copy makes three rows for one test name. The right resolution is the registration PR, not this one.

Not verified: the converter's output against a real qwen35 GGUF (the test writes its own small one, and I did not hunt for a model), and the docs' numbers.

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VERDICT: READY at 33506d1 — the one thing I asked for is now satisfied by #2023, so nothing here needs to change.

My CHANGES at e85124d was that this PR adds 78 lines to tests/gguf_to_q4nx_test.py, a file registered nowhere, so those arms never run. #2023 registers it (add_python_test(gguf_to_q4nx ${CMAKE_SOURCE_DIR}/tests/gguf_to_q4nx_test.py), among eight such tests), and that checker makes the class drift rather than recur — the better fix of the two, because it covers the next test file too, not just this one.

So: land this as-is and let #2023 close the gap. If #2023 stalls, the one-line fallback stands and I will re-raise it rather than assume.

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VERDICT: READY at 33506d1 — and I ran both converters' tests: gguf: PASS, qwen35_to_q4nx: ok.

The refusal shape is what makes this a fix and not a table extension

"hf_name() stops at the first one, which on a GGUF of another architecture is blk.0's first unknown part: [the] message then reads like one missing table row when the whole layer family is missing."

no Q4NX name for blk.0.attn_gate.weight is exactly that message, and it is misleading in the expensive direction: it suggests adding one row, when the pack is a different architecture whose whole layer family is unmapped. The fix collects every unmapped kind and refuses once, before anything is written:

ok   the refusal names the tensor
ok   the Q8 container writes back as 2 Q8_0 tensors (got 2)
ok   ternary: refused, naming 'ggml type 143'
ok   ternary: no output directory is left

"refused, naming 'ggml type 143'" is the right form for an unknown quantisation: a type number, not an enum name that does not exist — which is what #1868's family of messages converged on. And "no output directory is left" is the cleanup arm, so a refused run does not leave a half-written pack that the next run would read.

The genre split is named

bonsai2-27b (gated linear attention) is tools/qwen35_to_q4nx.py's format; gguf_to_q4nx.py covers the other. That is the same decomposition as #1974 (an NPU2 model source is a safetensors container, not an ONNX graph): the importer's genre is a property of the pack, and a converter for another genre must refuse rather than reinterpret. Naming which tool owns which in the refusal is what stops the next person adding a wrong row.

Tests

Both are numpy-only and write their own small GGUF: "no gguf package, no model, no device", registered through add_python_test — including the tool's own selftest (tile round-trip, value-head permutation) as a separate row. That is the shape that keeps a converter reviewable without a 27B download.

One ask: the refusal lists every unmapped kind "in one message" — if a large model of the wrong architecture is fed in, that list is a whole layer family per block and could be hundreds of lines. One line saying whether the message is truncated (and by what rule) would keep the refusal readable, since readability is the reason it exists.