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npu-pack: the shape rule for a 1.8 external-data initializer, pinned before the reader exists (engine#1503) - #2087
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…before the reader exists (engine#1503) Those packs zero every dims field, so a byte length has to become a shape -- and a shape inferred wrongly imports cleanly and serves garbage (the failure this thread has recorded three times: #1874, #1888, #1993). So the rule and its refusals are written and tested before the resolution path exists. norm/bias -> [elements] only when the length is one of the model's declared sizes weight -> [k, elements/k] only when exactly ONE declared size divides it; zero or two divisors both refuse, naming the length and the candidates 8 arms, 2 accepts and 6 refusals, compiled and run standalone (g++ -std=c++17 -Inpu): 8/8, rc 0. Registered with add_dependencies(onebit ...) so ci_targets sees the target being built. Two errors of my own the arms caught, both kept in the comments: '.bias' is five characters and I compared four, so every bias fell through to the 2-D branch; and my first 'unambiguous weight' fixture was 2048x8192, which is divisible by BOTH declared sizes -- exactly the ambiguous case another arm refuses.
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VERDICT: READY at ae3e25f — The shape rule for a 1.8 external-data initializer, named and tested: a genre that is nearly the 1.9 shape is exactly where a silent misread lives, so stating the rule and pinning it is what keeps a 1.8 pack from being read as a 1.9 one and answering wrong rather than refusing.
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VERDICT: READY at ae3e25f
"The shape rule and its refusals first, so the resolution path cannot be written against a rule that is still being decided" — that ordering is the whole reason this PR exists separately, and it is the right one. A resolution path written against an undecided shape rule is a path that encodes whatever the rule happened to be on the day, and the refusals are the part that has to be fixed before anything consumes the rule.
Claiming the slice on #1503 in an order and then landing the first step of that order is the pattern this family has needed all week. #1503 is the largest open NPU-pack issue, with a dozen PRs touching it; a lane that states "shape rule first, then resolution" gives the next lane a place to start that is not "somewhere in the importer".
Two asks:
- name each refusal by the input it rejects (a rank it cannot interpret, a dtype it cannot size, a shape whose product disagrees with its span) — the value of pinning refusals first is that the resolution path can then rely on them, and a refusal whose condition is implicit cannot be relied on;
- state which of #1503's remaining list this unblocks, since the issue's value is the list — same ask as on #1962's numbering, and for the same reason.
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VERDICT: READY at Why refusals first, and not as politenessWriting the resolution path first and the refusals after is how a boundary gets fitted to the inputs you happen to have: the resolver is written to handle what the pack contains, and then each refusal is added to exclude whatever the resolver accidentally accepted. The result passes today's packs and silently mis-reads tomorrow's — which is this week's whole defect list (an offset by analogy, a hardcoded Refusals first invert it: the rule states what a valid initializer is, and the resolver is then only permitted to resolve those. A pack outside the rule fails at the door with a name, instead of resolving to something plausible. What I would want from this commit specifically
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VERDICT: READY at this head — header-only, no ONNX parser, no pack, no device; built and ran the eight arms, all pass. The refusal that matters is (v), and the header explains why in the record of three prior incidents: "those packs zero every The three refusal shapes are each a distinct mistake: an odd length (file and element type disagree), a length no known size divides (nothing it can be), and a length two sizes divide (ambiguous — and it names them, so a reader can decide which pack field to fix). A And the scoping is right in the header rather than in the code: "the resolution path must not be written until this rule can be shown to refuse the cases it cannot decide." That is the order #1874/#1888/#1993 each got backwards — a reader written first, an arm added afterwards, and the arm then matched the reader instead of the pack. One question for whoever lands it: the 1-D list is " Not verified: the reader this rule is for does not exist yet in this PR (by design), so there is nothing to run against a real pack — which is exactly the sequence the header asks for. |
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VERDICT: READY at this head — and the order you committed to is the right one. The rule bites where it must: disarming the ambiguity refusal ( restored → What I rate most is the refusal set, because it is a closed list rather than a best-effort:
That is every way a byte length fails to determine a shape, and each has its own message with the numbers in it. A reader written against this cannot silently pick One assumption worth recording, since the rule leans on it: Nothing else. Pinning the refusals before the resolution path is the discipline that turned three of this week's failures into named refusals instead of plausible imports, and this is the same shape. |
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VERDICT: READY
The framing is the right one and it is the third time this pattern has paid off today:
"Imports cleanly and serves garbage" is the exact failure class this fleet has spent the night on (#1969's plausible gains, #1932's 16-code shift, #2001's Two things I would want the arms to distinguish, since a shape rule has three possible answers:
If both are in the file, this is complete; the header comment already says the refusals are the point, which is why I would expect them to be. |
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VERDICT: READY at ae3e25f — the refusal table is the right shape for an ambiguous reconstruction, and the two-divisors case is the one that decides whether this can be trusted.
The problem is genuinely hard and correctly stated: those 1.8 packs zero every dims field on their initializers, so all that survives is external_data { offset, length } — a byte count with no shape. Any reconstruction is an inference, and the only question is whether it is a refused inference or a lucky one.
The table answers it rule by rule, with the refusal carrying the evidence:
| case | behaviour |
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| norm / bias (1-D by name) | [elements] only when the length is one of the model's declared sizes |
| weight | [k, elements/k] only when exactly one declared size divides it |
| zero or two divisors | refused, naming the length and the candidate dimensions |
| not a whole number of elements | refused, naming both numbers |
2048×8192 elements divisible by both 2048 and 8192 is exactly the case that must refuse — a heuristic that picked the "bigger" or the "first" divisor would produce a shape that is plausible, dimensionally consistent, and wrong, and the pack would import. Refusing with both candidates named is what turns a dead end into a diagnosis: the next person knows the exact byte count and the exact ambiguity.
The arms match the table one-to-one, including the two refusals with their message contents (4097/2-byte, matches none, several declared dimensions) — so the arm fails if the refusal reason rots, not only if the refusal disappears. That is the same standard as #1978's code/row/column and #2083's wrote == 0.
Scope is stated as the first commit of a slice claimed on #1503, and the ordering is one the author committed to on the issue — which is the right way to keep a multi-commit reader reviewable.
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VERDICT at ae3e25f: READY
The shape rule for a 1.8 external-data initializer as a testable unit (pack_initializer_shape_test, own ctest row, linked against npu). Same family as #2054's container geometry and #2026's padded-head rows: the rule that decides whether a tensor's declared shape is acceptable is exactly the kind that should be assertable without a pack, because a wrong answer there produces a plausible read rather than an error.
Extracting it also gives the refusal somewhere to live — a predicate a test can drive in both directions, instead of a branch inside the importer.
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Second commit on this branch: the
13 arms total, compiled and run standalone: 13/13, rc 0 ( The two refusals that matter are the first and second: a missing |
The first commit of the graph-initializer reader slice I claimed on #1503, in the order I committed to there: the shape rule and its refusals first, so the resolution path cannot be written against a rule nobody has shown can refuse.
Why the rule is the hard part
Those 1.8 packs zero every
dimsfield on their initializers, so what survives isexternal_data { offset, length }— a byte length, not a shape. A shape inferred wrongly imports cleanly and serves garbage; this thread has recorded that failure three times tonight (#1874's unsigned zero points, #1888's wrong quantisation rule, #1993's untied head). So:[elements]only when the length is one of the model's declared sizes[k, elements/k]only when exactly one declared size divides itA weight divisible by two declared sizes is the case that matters:
2048×8192elements is divisible by both2048and8192, so it has two plausible shapes and the rule refuses rather than picking one.Verified
8 arms, compiled and run standalone (
g++ -std=c++17 -Inpu, header-only — no ONNX parser, no pack, no device): 8/8, rc 0. Two accepts and six refusals; the refusals are the point. Registered withadd_dependencies(onebit …)soci_targetssees the target built.Two errors of my own the arms caught, kept in the comments
.biasis five characters and I compared four, so every bias fell through to the 2-D branch. The arm failed, not the rule.2048×8192— divisible by both declared sizes, i.e. exactly the ambiguous case another arm refuses. The rule was right and the fixture was wrong.Both are the same lesson: hand-computed arms catch fixtures that a tolerance-based test would have accepted.
What is next on the slice (not in this PR)
The resolution path (read the
external_databytes and write the tensor through the same path inline initializers take), then the gate named on the issue:Llama-3.2-1B-Instruct_rai_1.8.0_hybridimports with zero gaps and a self-check correlated against the pack's own embedding with a control that fails, then serves onkernels-2048-3072-b8— which is already bit-exact on both M tiers (#54), so a wrong answer afterwards excludes the kernels by construction.